XYplorer Beta Club

Hi,

I use back/forward in history like every minute and there is one thing that realy bugs me. if i sort a folder by creatiion date, enter a subdir, press "back", i expect to see the last dir sorted by creation date but instead it is sorted by the default sort.

I know i can click "save the current view as default" but that s not what i want. I only want to change the sort order of the one dir i chose.
I checked and that s the default behavior of the Explorer. I know that s not a model but i think that s the right way to do it.
I suppose it s not easy to implement as i think that the history right now only same paths.

WHat do you think ?

Martin

Check out the setting "Auto-Save Changes" when defining the folder view settings (either the default ones or for one specific folder). With that setting enabled XY behaves like Explorer.

edit: i just realised, i probably misunderstood your question. If you just want to save the sort order for one folder to creation date instead of name then a standard "folder view setting" for this folder will suffice. "Auto-Save Changes" is only necessary if you want to save any changes "on the fly" without clicking the save button again after changing e.g. the sort order.

That s not really it. Actually you can test the behavior in the explorer.
Go into a folder with subfolders
1) change the sort order to modified date just by clicking the column header
2) enter a subdirectory, there you are in the default sort order not modified date
3) press "back", you will go back to the parent dir in "modify date" order.

The autosaving wouldnt do what i want because the subdirectory would be also sorted by "modify date"

I like the behavior of the explorer because in a way it recognize that you temporarly want to modify the sort order, and also save it in history.

carmenm wrote:That s not really it. Actually you can test the behavior in the explorer.
Go into a folder with subfolders
1) change the sort order to modified date just by clicking the column header
2) enter a subdirectory, there you are in the default sort order not modified date
3) press "back", you will go back to the parent dir in "modify date" order.

The autosaving wouldnt do what i want because the subdirectory would be also sorted by "modify date"

I like the behavior of the explorer because in a way it recognize that you temporarly want to modify the sort order, and also save it in history.

If I get you right that would mean that individual view settings for each folder have to be stored. This is indeed not supported in XY. In the long run it would take quite some memory and lots of housekeeping on rename etc.

Is it that much in memory? i mean it s an int for sort order and maybe an int for the view?
I dont think that s so much and that would be (in my opinion) a great addition.
It just doesnt feel right to loose it everytime when you go back in history. It s just like if you did undo and it reverted half of what needs to be reverted.

admin wrote:If I get you right that would mean that individual view settings for each folder have to be stored. This is indeed not supported in XY. In the long run it would take quite some memory and lots of housekeeping on rename etc.

If I understand it right, not for every folder, but only for every folder in history? So it would be additional info for every entry in history?
Or did I get it wrong?

carmenm wrote:Is it that much in memory? i mean it s an int for sort order and maybe an int for the view?
I dont think that s so much and that would be (in my opinion) a great addition.
It just doesnt feel right to loose it everytime when you go back in history. It s just like if you did undo and it reverted half of what needs to be reverted.

OK, now I see there would be a possibility to tie it to the history data in some way (which would then overwrite FVS). But that's not easily done because it means a certain data standard has to be upgraded which is always tricky because backward compatibility has to be ensured.

All in all it does not look like a thing I will add very soon.
After all you can use tabbed browsing to tie specific sort orders to specific folders.

PeterH wrote:

admin wrote:If I get you right that would mean that individual view settings for each folder have to be stored. This is indeed not supported in XY. In the long run it would take quite some memory and lots of housekeeping on rename etc.

If I understand it right, not for every folder, but only for every folder in history? So it would be additional info for every entry in history?
Or did I get it wrong?

Same thought at the same time (see my other post)!

Yeah that s it.
ANd i know it wouldnt be easy to implement. I just hope it would make it to your todo list.

Yes i can tie a view sort to a folder, but then it looses its "temporary" status.

Thanks for reading though

carmenm wrote:Yeah that s it.
ANd i know it wouldnt be easy to implement. I just hope it would make it to your todo list.

Yes i can tie a view sort to a folder, but then it looses its "temporary" status.

Thanks for reading though

Would you expect this to be retained between sessions?

NO not really. As i said it is an "instant" feature. I dont think i would even like it between session. I would almost sureoly have forgotten about it and wouldnt understand why it does that

carmenm wrote:NO not really. As i said it is an "instant" feature. I dont think i would even like it between session. I would almost sureoly have forgotten about it and wouldnt understand why it does that

Cool. I added it, and I would not even call it a new feature. It's strictly speaking a bug fix because without it the already (for many years) existing restoring of scroll position and of focus position would not work correctly after the sort order in the current tab has been changed. Now they do!

SOOOOOO COOOL
I dont think you can imagine how happy you made me

cant wait for the new beta

It doesnt seem to work for me in the latest version :s
I am in a dir
1) click on a column header to change the sort order
2) enter a subdir
3) backward
I end up with the default sort order.

True, I forgot about FVS. Fix comes...